Pants On Fire
Sigh. I guess what it boils down to is I really don't understand what I'm supposed to be doing. I feel like I keep asking on all these different paths but I'm still not getting the answer. Hello, God, it's me Julie.
I'm not unhappy or stressed about it. I've finally given over caution to whatever direction the wind is going to blow. Inaction is the waiting game. All roads lead to here.
Today was, as expected, the day from hell. My body reminded me all day that I did my entire practice yesterday. As a result I noticed I stood and sat up taller, straighter, with more awareness.
I also got to have a funny moment when, looking for something, I ran through my hit log... and someone found this blog searching for "[my teacher] ashtanga hot beautiful women" - what can you say?
So, my largest philosophical waxing, however is my child. She lies. She lies straight to my face. She lies and then says she doesn't know why she lies. She lied after she saw me walk into her bedroom, caught her with the iPod on a Spongebob show with a big huge blob of candy in her mouth. What's in your mouth? Nothing. I'm just not sure what to do about it. We've talked to her about how we are disappointed and how important trust is. It's happening enough that I'm beginning to be concerned.
P.S. to Cio -- yes but it is on my other computer and I'm too lazy to go get it :>


Comments
One reason kids lie, particularly the tween kids, is to establish some emotional privacy. If the family is very "transparent" emotionally, lies can be a way of setting up some personal boundaries. A way of establishing separate personhood.
Posted by: karen | March 27, 2008 7:09 AM
Hi there, found your blog by way of beliefnet. kids lying is so difficult. i got a piece of advice i've been trying to practice. instead of asking is that candy in your mouth. say, i know you're eating candy and here's what we're going to do about it. that eliminates some of it. good luck! oh, yes. good luck. it's hard.
Posted by: sarah | March 27, 2008 8:18 AM
I always try to remember to not "set them up" to lie....rephrase the question so that it's not really a question, more of a statement of fact that they can either agree with or disagree with but with more interaction than just a yes or no answer. It's not easy to do, but it seems to work.
I wanna see your new do...and you. I'm home more now, desert rat season is over LOL.
Posted by: Angel | March 27, 2008 5:04 PM
You know the one things kids don't ever understand is why they can't do something - how do I know this? Because I was a child living at home not so long ago. I was constantly told I couldn't do this, I had to do this before this, etc...made the whole idea of doing it more worthwhile. My mom emphasized no drinking, but I thought drinking was cool because all the popular kids did it. Was it? No, but b/c of how I am and seeing how much of a bore my mom can be - I had to find out if it was worth it or not.
Posted by: Tiff | March 27, 2008 5:11 PM
Each and every one of my kids has gone through a lying stage. Ellen, at six, is going through it now. They all came out, with little fuss from us (over the lying) and are upstanding citizens (or they're lying about that :)).
And like others have said, I try not to give them a chance to lie (NVC makes that easy) and simply address the issue. Course, when you're trying to figure out who scratched the diningroom table, that means addressing the issue and your concerns with the lot. Cause you know, NOBODY did it! :)
Posted by: kathy | March 27, 2008 6:21 PM
All 3 of my kids never admit to doing anything wrong, they could have traces of the crime all over them or their rooms, look me in the eye and deny they had anything to do with it. All 3 of them are like that, I am certain that the dog creates all the mischief in the house :0
Fun practicing (and chatting) with you today. I went totally improv in my noon class today, tall english J was there, haven't seen him in awhile.
Posted by: kiran | March 27, 2008 10:11 PM
If you ask your child a question to which you already know (or think you know) the answer, in a way, you are lying to them. Or at the very least, you are not being truthful in intention. I think one of the real challenges of parenting is when we insist on integrity from our children and fail to demonstrate to them how it is practiced--notice I didn't say "how it is achieved"--it is always a practice. Yet another thing my children continue to teach me.
Posted by: adele | March 27, 2008 10:39 PM
Does she get more of your attention now that she has started lying? I remember reading something somewhere where children just want and crave the attention, whether its inappropropriate or 'bad' attention.
Posted by: ciodude | March 28, 2008 9:14 AM
Wow...I think that the two comments about not asking a question to which you know the answer are brilliant. I hate being manipulated by, say, my mother in law. She will ask, "Are you going to wear that?" when it is perfectly obvious that I am already wearing it. And instead of dealing with the possibility that perhaps jeans is not the right thing to wear to her country club (blech), we are dealing with me hiding from her manipulative sniping. Now, I am NOT saying you are manipulatively sniping at your daughter. But the idea proposed by these commenters is a good one. I am goin got use it, myself. Hopefully. Being direct is so important, and maybe it gets to the heart of what the issues is (candy, spongebob, whatever) directly without all the detours.
CIOdude, you are right too, I think, and Julie has said that she has been wrapped up in her work and her own existential crisis for a while, but the stuff her daughter is doing is typical stuff. I only know one child who refuses to do the wrong thing, and that is just innate. Nothing his parents did.
Posted by: lauren | March 29, 2008 9:34 AM
You know Lauren, I really rail at your comment. If you are suggesting that I'm neglecting my children due to my "own existential crisis" which you know absolutely near nothing about, I'll beg you to just discontinue reading my blog. My children are, hands down, the most important thing to me. You have no idea of my personal situation or the steps I have taken to ensure that they are not neglected in order to work full-time and be a committed parent whatever my personal inner being is doing. No, I don't have the luxury of being home full-time (and it is a luxury, I've done that too) but I have done everything I can to be here including giving up my yoga practice for nearly two months so that I could spend every moment I did have free with my kids.
FWIW, in this particular situation, I had no idea whether or not she had candy in her mouth. She had a big huge ball of something. I didn't know if it was food or not. I said "What is in your mouth?" Her answer was "nothing" yet clearly she had a ball sized something in her mouth.
Over the past couple of days we've talked a bit more and what seems to have helped was a little speech her 10 year old brother gave her... referencing some speech his dad gave him one time about lying. We'll see how it resonates.
Posted by: Julie | March 29, 2008 6:54 PM
I am so so so sorry. I was not suggesting that you are neglecting our children at ALL. NOT ONE TINY IOTA. The thought process was as follows, just so you know that I did actually ATTEMPT to say something that made sense and that was not intended to hurt you: I know you are working very hard and I have heard you talking about your internal conflicts. I know from my own experience with my kids and from working really long hours (I did for the first five years of having kids) and from completely ignoring them while I was going through my own hard time that CIOdude was onto something, albeit maybe not with regard to YOU and YOUR situation. Just onto something IN GENERAL. I am so sorry that you took offense. PLEASE accept my apology.
Posted by: lauren | March 30, 2008 6:22 PM
L - I hear your apology. Thanks. I may have read into it... it just sounded sorta hurtful :) I've had a lot of changes you aren't aware of with regard to the inner turmoil. Choices that suck for me but I've done for my kids. I'll have to tell you about them sometime.
By the way, I got an email from Dr. S wanting me to do my yearly... *sigh* so maybe I'll be up there soon.
Posted by: Julie | March 30, 2008 8:55 PM
If you come up, I am right up here in Westchester! I can pick you up and show you around the ex-urban boonies.
Posted by: lauren | March 31, 2008 7:05 AM
Where'd my comment go??? Anyway...if you come up, and I assume you will, let me know...as I am right here in Westchester, a mere hop skip and a jump from Dr. S's office. I can pick you up and show you around the ex-urban boonies!
Posted by: lauren | March 31, 2008 7:07 AM