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It's Really Not Religion

I grew up as a child really, really, really, really wanting to be Christian. My parents weren't "anything" and so we didn't go to church and whatnot. I remember that all of my friends used to go to church and it seemed like this total "club" type of thing... all the things they did at "Christian Summer Camp" and the weekly nightly meetings and stuff. I really wanted to be Christian and participate (remember I grew up in a very, very small town... we literally had one streetlight and two stop signs to cross the town) in those meetings. I started going to church with the neighbors. My parents didn't go, I would just with them in the mornings on Sunday. I did Sunday School. I did the whole gig where you have to recite the names of the Bible as the little song and if you could do it, you'd get your very own big Gold Bible. Matthew, Mark, Luke & John, Acts, Romans, Two Chorinthians, Galations, Ephesions, Filimpoinos or something of the sort, Titus, Pheliman and Hebrew, James, First Peter, Second Peter, Three John Jude and Revelations. Yea, I realize I was off on a few but that's pretty impressive given that I haven't felt any affinity towards Christianity in an eon.


So tonight we put the iPod on Random for our evening downstairs as a family. We've never used the random setting before even though my dear friend Barton (whom I realize I haven't seen in months and months even though we keep promising we'll do it.. there's your shout out B) has repeatedly told me he enjoys what it brings up. It was pretty cool, we got a good mix of rock 'n roll, some r&b stuff, some kid stuff... when Krishna Das came on with "God Is Real." This prompted a really interesting discussion for The Husband and I. We talked a lot about our paths to spirituality and I explained how that song really emotes what I feel about God these days. I've done a lot of "fighting" over the years to find peace with God. My blind line in the sand that I was not Christian and therefore going to dismniss the entire institution. I dabbled in Wicca but always felt a little wierd about it. I dabbled in Paganism (yes they are two different things) and really felt naturea and the lure of the meditations that lie within. I found Buddhism and felt like I found a home in my mind and soul... Then I found yoga and suddenly I had the body connection and just as suddenly God found a way to dwell within everyday. It's just all God and it's amazing. It's not so different from what I strived to believe in as a child hitching rides to church with the neighbors, it's just a different way of getting there I suppose.

So The Husband and I sat chatting about this for awhile when The Daughter came up and indicated she'd like to be part of the conversation. I always try to remember during these times that even though it seems young, at five, she's got more spiritual wisdom and heart insight than I may ever regain in this lifetime. So we asked her how she felt about God. She told us that God makes babies... and she named a few people, us included, that God made. It was interesting her list of people but really told us what her mind as processing. She then told us that if you are in trouble you can think of Ganesha and Ganesh will come and help you. This really made me take pause because I don't know that I've ever worded that to her that way but what I realized is she has this belief system that came from me. I mean, if I had sat and told her all about Jesus Christ, it could just as easily become him. This reinforced my feelings that all paths lead to God as I know it/him. It also made me realize that I think, as a child, I would have liked to have that solidified belief. I would have liked to have something to stand on and spring forth with. I may have still ended up right here... in fact, I believe I would. As the saying goes, you are drawn to yoga in this lifetime because you've been a yogi before. It just would have been wonderous to have a starting ground if that makes sense. I sometimes worry myself to death, want my kids to have such a clean slate to start from, not my own beliefs that I forgot this is really inavoidable... even the most left-wing or right-wing of beliefs is ingrained from such a young age.


It is this same revelation that I had recently when I was standing with someone whom I would consider a real life true yogi. Not that enlightenment has set in and they live in a cave but someone that I feel really embodies the "energy" of a yogi (and there are no words for that energy, it's a deep sense of soul peace that comes through)... and that person told me that they were gonna eat candy.... like real live, horrible, would snub my nose up at it, sugar filled, corn syrup and red and blue dyes (and that was probably just the ones I can spell) and I realized that we don't live in a cave...... which is why today I let my child get reall live, horrendously long list of horrid ingredients, sugar filled bought from the real life "supermarket" Nintendo Gummi Bears (as opposed to the all natural, not so sweet variety at the HFS) and actually eat one tonight. But more to the point, why I'm gonna go eat the Charleston Chew I bought with him in an effort to remember that moderation can and maybe should mean every great now and again.... as my son put it when we got homne "Mom, could we do this once a year where we get these?" It was then when I realized perhaps I've been too rigid.. once a year never hurt anyone.

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By the way, the candy thing made me chuckle (lol, haha that's a funny word) only b/c I feel like a kid and I'm also eating some right now too. As we've discussed numerous times about religion, it's still something I'm trying to sift through and figure out what exactly it's about. I think children have such an enlightened view on things. I used to say the most profound things to my mom about God when I was a little girl, and I never realized it until she told me years later how much it impacted her. I couldn't imagine saying those things now. I think our age experiences taint our view on life and in that sense, children are so wise, pure, and naive. I think that is what makes children so great though. But in terms of religion, I think it ultimately should boil down to a person and the relationship they find and the comfort it brings the individual. Still, I'm sifting to find my peace.

Interesting post. My parents weren't any religion either and we never went to church--and I really wanted to be Catholic growing up (I grew up in a very Catholic town on the east coast). On Wednesdays all the kids used to get off the bus and go to CCD (Catholic school) and all I wanted to do was go with them, I thought it would be so great to be Catholic and get that wafer on Sundays! I had my mom buy me a children's bible and I would read it at night. Funny isn't it....and now I live in Ireland and to see the effects of Catholicism on a society is strange indeed.

Let me start out by saying "to each their own".

I was raised in a very Methodist household. I feel guilty that we haven't been to church in some time (read years and years). I have no one else to blame but myself, but Sunday morning is a true day of rest for us, WIFE sleeps in as long as the twins or I will let her. Then it's used for errand running and other things that aren't very religious. I also feel the silent (mostly) disapproval from my parents when we all visit. They will occasionally come out and say something directly, but not often at all. I think they realize our household gets um.. overwhelmed at times.

While I believe it's important for everyone to have someone/something to turn to when the need is there, I am not super involved in the detailed trappings of organized religion. Some of the biggest, most two faced people I have ever met were weekly church attendees. One incident I do remember - in the church I grew up in, there were two couples cheating on each other. Eventually they got divorced and married each other (a very real trading spouses type situation). All the while the minister would not say anything because the one man was church treasurer and a big wig in state politics. I hear a lot of that type of thing from my father who was very involved on the church board (challenging most people's notions of what to do and not to do - I think they were all very happy when he finally stopped running for office) and saw a lot of that myself, the more I got involved. It was something I never understood. I am much more of a boat rocker that way. If you aren't going to adhere to the basic tenants/laws, and be willing to call a spade a spade, then what's the use of having a belief of any kind? I am quite sure God will judge them all (minister included) appropriately - that’s his prerogative not mine.

WIFE and I teach things to the children, we read Bible stories, listen to religious songs and such. I want them to have a very sound and moral foundation to live their lives from. Neither WIFE nor I will be there at all times when they need to make a decision - they have to be able to make them on their own. I would love to get them all into a Sunday School, I keep telling myself when the youngest gets older. Of course we just another reprieve in that respect.

Hi Julie...as promised...a question...

What IS wiccan-ism? Paganism? I have a vague idea. But it would be good to get a quick overview from someone who actually has experience practicing these religions (?)...

Thanks,

Lauren

In very simplistic terms, Paganism is what the very early people's of all areas celebrated. It is marked by the Wheel of the Year and therefore the changing seasons. For examply major holidays would include the Solstices. The celebrations and the thread is nature and our oneness with it. There are many forms of Paganism but, in general, many Native, tribal, ancient Celtic, etc. spirituality was Pagan.


Most Pagan rituals include honoring the elements - earth, air, fire and water. Wicca is basically Paganism with "witchcraft" thrown in. Most Wiccan celebrations are a little more driven towards the inclusion of specific spells or rituals. Most of the people I have known who considered themselves Wiccan would have called themselves witches or warlocks. I never really felt right with this part and always felt a little "silly" when attempting to join in the rituals.

To my Wiccan/Pagan friends: I realize I glossed over this especially the difference with Wicca... forgive me but I figured anyone with further interest would google Wicca and get lots and lots of information.